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Dave Knapp on CagriSema vs Tirzepatide, Novo Nordisk's Triple Agonist UBT-251, and Retatrutide: Fact Check

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Dave Knapp on CagriSema vs Tirzepatide, Novo Nordisk’s Triple Agonist UBT-251, and Retatrutide: Fact Check

Dave Knapp, host of the On The Pen podcast, broke down three major stories in a single episode: Novo Nordisk slashing semaglutide prices, CagriSema weight loss results losing to tirzepatide in the REDEFINE-4 head-to-head trial, and a new Novo Nordisk triple agonist called UBT-251 posting 19.7% weight loss at 24 weeks. He asks the obvious question — is Novo’s triple agonist better than retatrutide?

This review uses the transcript of his February 24, 2026 episode and the underlying trial announcements. His headline figures mostly match the releases, but neither the cross-trial comparison nor speculation about GIP intolerance establishes which treatment is better for an individual.


Novo Nordisk Cuts Semaglutide Prices

Knapp reports that Novo Nordisk is cutting the list prices of Wegovy by 50% and Ozempic by 35%, effective January 1, 2027, bringing all doses to $675 per month. He clarifies this is the wholesale acquisition cost and won’t directly lower cash-pay prices.

ClaimPublished DataVerdict
Wegovy list price cut by 50%Novo Nordisk press release (Feb 24, 2026): Wegovy list price reduced by approximately 50% effective January 1, 2027.Accurate
Ozempic price cut by 35%Novo Nordisk press release: Ozempic list price reduced by approximately 35%. The announcement covers the listed semaglutide presentations.Accurate
New list price: $675/month for all dosesNovo Nordisk confirmed $675 monthly list price for Wegovy, Ozempic, and Rybelsus.Accurate
This is the wholesale acquisition cost, not what patients payCorrect. WAC is the price to distributors. Patient out-of-pocket costs depend on insurance plan structure.Accurate
Cash-pay prices are not affectedNovo's self-pay programs (e.g., NovoCare) remain separate from the list price reduction. The company says this announcement does not affect its direct-to-patient self-pay prices.Accurate
The announced list-price reductions take effect on January 1, 2027. They may help people whose insurance cost-sharing depends on list price; they do not guarantee a lower pharmacy bill for everyone. The announcement does not change direct-to-patient self-pay prices.

CagriSema vs Tirzepatide: REDEFINE-4 Weight Loss Results

Knapp covers the REDEFINE-4 trial results, explaining that CagriSema (cagrilintide 2.4 mg + semaglutide 2.4 mg) was tested head-to-head against tirzepatide 15 mg over 84 weeks. He reports that CagriSema missed its non-inferiority endpoint.

ClaimPublished DataVerdict
CagriSema: 23% weight loss (efficacy estimand)REDEFINE-4 topline results: CagriSema achieved 23.0% weight loss under the efficacy estimand (assuming all patients adhered).Accurate
Tirzepatide: 25.5% weight loss (efficacy estimand)REDEFINE-4: Tirzepatide achieved 25.5% weight loss under the same estimand.Accurate
Treatment regimen estimand: CagriSema 20%, tirzepatide 23.6%REDEFINE-4: Under the treatment regimen estimand (accounting for discontinuations), CagriSema hit 20.2% and tirzepatide hit 23.6%.Accurate
809 adults with mean baseline weight of 114.2 kgREDEFINE-4 enrolled 809 adults with obesity and at least one weight-related comorbidity. Mean baseline body weight was 114.2 kg.Accurate
CagriSema missed non-inferiorityNovo Nordisk confirmed CagriSema did not meet the primary endpoint of non-inferiority to tirzepatide.Accurate
Open-label study for 84 weeksREDEFINE-4 was an open-label, randomized trial over 84 weeks.Accurate

The reported weight-loss figures and missed non-inferiority endpoint match Novo Nordisk’s February 23, 2026 announcement. The efficacy estimand estimates outcomes under continued treatment; it is not a count of participants who reached the highest dose.

Knapp suggests CagriSema could suit people who do not tolerate tirzepatide’s GIP component. The release does not test that selection rule, and symptoms during tirzepatide treatment do not identify which receptor caused them. Nor does the trial establish that the difference in weight loss is clinically unimportant for every patient.

For a detailed comparison, see Retatrutide vs CagriSema.

Novo Nordisk Triple Agonist UBT-251: Phase 2 Weight Loss Data

Knapp introduces UBT-251, a triple agonist (GLP-1/GIP/glucagon) being jointly developed by United Biotechnology and Novo Nordisk. He reports 19.7% weight loss at 24 weeks in a Chinese phase 2 trial.

ClaimPublished DataVerdict
UBT-251 is a triple agonist from Novo NordiskUBT-251 is jointly developed by The United Laboratories (TUL) subsidiary United Biotechnology and Novo Nordisk. It targets GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptors.Accurate
19.7% mean weight loss at 24 weeksNovo Nordisk/TUL press release (Feb 24, 2026): UBT-251 delivered up to 19.7% mean weight loss after 24 weeks across the trial’s tested doses; the release does not identify a dose-specific breakdown.Accurate
205 Chinese participantsThe primary release reports 205 Chinese participants with overweight or obesity, randomized to 2, 4 or 6 mg UBT251 or placebo.Accurate
Mean body weight of 92.2 kgPress release confirms mean baseline body weight of approximately 92.2 kg.Accurate
No plateau observedNovo Nordisk stated the weight loss curve had not plateaued at 24 weeks, suggesting further weight loss possible with longer treatment.Accurate
Placebo group lost 2%Press release: Placebo group showed approximately 2% weight change.Accurate

The headline numbers match the release. UBT251 was developed by United Biotechnology, a subsidiary of The United Laboratories. Under the March 2025 licence, Novo Nordisk holds development and commercialization rights outside Greater China. That partnership matters when describing whose molecule it is.


UBT-251 vs Retatrutide: The Cross-Trial Comparison

Knapp makes the inevitable comparison between UBT-251 and retatrutide at 24 weeks, while repeatedly warning that cross-trial comparisons are fragile.

ClaimPublished DataVerdict
Retatrutide achieved up to 17.5% weight loss at 24 weeks (Phase 2)Jastreboff et al. (2023) NEJM: Retatrutide 12 mg group achieved 17.5% weight loss at 24 weeks in a US population with mean baseline weight of ~107 kg.Accurate
Comparing across trials is not a fair comparisonCorrect. Different countries, baseline weights (92.2 vs ~107 kg), populations, dose escalation strategies, and statistical methods make direct comparison unreliable.Accurate and responsible
Novo Nordisk press release vs peer-reviewed dataUBT-251 data is from a topline press release. Retatrutide 24-week data is from a peer-reviewed NEJM publication. This is an important quality-of-evidence distinction.Accurate
HRS-9531 showed 17.2% at 24 weeks in a Chinese populationHRS9531 is a GLP-1/GIP dual agonist. The retrieved 8 mg phase 2 presentation reports 22.8% mean loss versus 1.7% with placebo at 36 weeks. The 17.2% figure at 24 weeks was not verified in that presentation and should not be labelled placebo-adjusted here.24-week figure not verified here

Knapp appropriately warns against ranking these drugs from separate trials. The figures he compares do not establish that UBT251 is better than retatrutide. Different populations, trial designs and reporting methods limit the comparison, even at the same nominal timepoint. The HRS9531 example is also a dual agonist, so it cannot establish a consistent effect of triple agonism.

For retatrutide’s full Phase 2 and Phase 3 results, see Retatrutide Results.

Saxenda as the Historical Benchmark

Knapp uses Saxenda (liraglutide 3.0 mg) as a historical comparison point to illustrate how far obesity treatments have come.

ClaimPublished DataVerdict
Saxenda achieved about 9% weight lossSCALE Obesity trial (2015): Liraglutide 3.0 mg achieved 8.0% mean weight loss at 56 weeks (vs 2.6% placebo). This supports an approximate historical comparison, not a head-to-head result.Approximately accurate
23% weight loss is not good enough to win in today's marketCagriSema's 23% (efficacy estimand) failed to meet non-inferiority against tirzepatide's 25.5%. The trial result does not by itself establish market success or failure.Accurate

The Strategic Timing

Knapp links the price announcement to the disappointing CagriSema result. The announcements were on consecutive days, not the same day: REDEFINE-4 on February 23 and the price cuts on February 24, 2026.

A strategic connection is his interpretation. Neither release establishes that the trial result caused the pricing decision or that the change will secure better formulary access.


Frequently Asked Questions

Who is Dave Knapp from On The Pen?

Dave Knapp hosts On The Pen, which covers GLP-1 medicines and obesity-treatment news. This review concerns his February 24, 2026 episode; it evaluates the reported claims against primary sources rather than treating the programme as medical advice.

Is UBT-251 better than retatrutide?

It is impossible to say from current data. UBT-251 showed 19.7% weight loss at 24 weeks in 205 Chinese participants (mean weight 92.2 kg), while retatrutide showed 17.5% at 24 weeks in a US population (mean weight ~107 kg). These are different trials with different populations, baseline weights, dose escalation strategies, and statistical methods. As Knapp correctly notes, comparing a topline press release to peer-reviewed data is inherently unreliable. Only a head-to-head trial could answer this question. For how retatrutide compares to other drugs, see Retatrutide vs Tirzepatide.

Will the Wegovy price cut make it cheaper for me?

It depends on your insurance. The ~50% list price reduction (to $675/month) primarily benefits patients whose out-of-pocket costs are directly tied to the list price — such as those on high-deductible health plans or co-insurance models. If you already pay a flat copay (e.g., $50), your cost may not change. Self-pay and cash prices through programs like NovoCare are not affected by this change. For more on retatrutide pricing, see Retatrutide Cost and Access.

How much weight loss does CagriSema achieve?

In the REDEFINE-4 trial, CagriSema weight loss reached 23.0% at 84 weeks under the efficacy estimand (assuming full adherence) and 20.2% under the treatment regimen estimand (accounting for discontinuations). These are strong results historically, but they fell short of tirzepatide in the same trial. A trial result does not establish an approval or launch date. For a detailed comparison, see Retatrutide vs CagriSema.

What is CagriSema vs tirzepatide — which is better for weight loss?

In the REDEFINE-4 head-to-head trial, tirzepatide (15 mg) achieved 25.5% weight loss compared to CagriSema’s 23.0% at 84 weeks. CagriSema failed to meet its primary endpoint of non-inferiority to tirzepatide. That trial does not establish a treatment choice based on presumed GIP intolerance. Retatrutide results come from separate trials and cannot establish superiority over either drug. For how retatrutide compares, see Retatrutide vs CagriSema.

Sources

  • Knapp, D. (2026). "NEW GLP3 FROM NOVO NORDISK! BETTER THAN RETATRUTIDE?" On The Pen Podcast. Watch on YouTube
  • Novo Nordisk A/S. (2026). Novo Nordisk announces significant reduction in US list price for Wegovy, Ozempic and Rybelsus. Press release
  • Novo Nordisk / United Biotechnology. (2026). Triple agonist UBT251 delivers up to 19.7% mean weight loss after 24 weeks in phase 2 trial in China. Press release
  • Novo Nordisk. (February 23, 2026). REDEFINE 4 topline results. Primary announcement
  • Zhou et al. (2025). HRS9531 8 mg phase 2 trial. ADA presentation
  • Jastreboff, A.M., et al. (2023). Triple-Hormone-Receptor Agonist Retatrutide for Obesity — A Phase 2 Trial. New England Journal of Medicine. DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2301972
  • Pi-Sunyer, X., et al. (2015). A Randomized, Controlled Trial of 3.0 mg of Liraglutide in Weight Management (SCALE). New England Journal of Medicine. DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa1411892
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